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Greece Walks Out After 45 Minutes, Talks Collapse; Default Math: Who Foots the Bill? How Much? Posted: 14 Jun 2015 09:22 PM PDT Congratulations to Greece for walking out of 11th hour Troika talks. Greece is going to default sooner or later and the sooner the better for everyone involved. The Financial Times reports Greek Default Fears Rise as 'Eleventh-Hour' Talks Collapse. Talks aimed at reaching an eleventh-hour deal between Greek ministers and their bailout creditors collapsed on Sunday evening after a new economic reform proposal submitted by Athens was deemed inadequate to continue negotiations.Gambling Away the Future I have no love of radical left governments, communists, etc. But I do commend anyone willing to tell the IMF to go to hell. I also commend anyone bright enough to avoid suicide, and that's what accepting the offer would mean. If Greece defaults, as it should, it will have the opportunity to cram the entire bailout straight down the throats of the nannycrats and the IMF. All it has to do is initiate genuine reforms, make an alliance with Russia, cut taxes instead of raising them, and thrive. Alas, the odds of genuine reform is slim, but at least it's possible. Raising taxes to run the required current account surplus to pay back creditors while Greece goes into a 10-year depression is not going to happen. At this point, any alleged gamble is better than a zero percent chance of success. Farce of the Day The Bild statement "Europe and Germany will not let themselves be blackmailed. And we will not let the exaggerated electoral pledges of a partly communist government be paid for by German workers and their families" is the farce of the day. I commented at four years ago that German taxpayers would foot the bill one way or another. Their choice, like it or not, is the same now as it was then: Write down Greek debt voluntarily, or Greece would default on it. This position is not taking sides, it is simply a mathematical certainty based on a simple truism, what cannot be paid back, won't be paid back. Nothing to Lose On June 11, in "Air of Unreality"; "Do You Feel Lucky, Punk?"; Who Has the Gun? I said Greece has nothing to lose by defaulting. I quoted Bob Dylan "When you ain't got nothing, you got nothing to lose." I emailed that post to Financial Times writer Wolfgang Münchau but he did not respond. I do not know if he read my email or not, but I do know he agrees. Today Münchau writes Greece has Nothing to Lose by Saying No to Creditors. So here we are. Alexis Tsipras has been told to take it or leave it. What should he do?Default Math If Greece defaults on its official-sector debt, Münchau calculates France and Germany stand to forfeit €160 billion. And what about Spain? Portugal? Münchau has numbers higher than my January 22, post Revised Greek Default Scenario: Liabilities Shifted to German and French Taxpayers; Bluff of the Day Revisited. At that time, I had French exposure at €55 billion and German exposure at €73 billion (a total of €128 billion). I also had Spain at €33 billion and Italy at €48 billion. Both of those numbers are likely way higher today. Even if my numbers are still accurate, where the hell is Spain going to come up with €33 billion? Where will Italy come up with €48 billion? The answer to both questions is simple: they won't. Loaded Gun So who has the loaded gun and who doesn't? If Greece is smart, it will not implement capital controls until the ECB shuts down the ELA, forcing the issue. Greece will then have the ECB and Germany to blame for the resultant controls. By the way, Münchau is a staunch supporter of the eurozone and I certainly am not. Yet, we both arrived at the same conclusion: Greece has nothing to lose by defaulting. The only people who have not figured this out are the nannycrats who believe they have a loaded gun pointed at Greece, when it's Greece that really has the gun. Mike "Mish" Shedlock http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com |
"Last Try" in Greece Before Capital Controls: Then What? Best Case Scenario for Greece Posted: 14 Jun 2015 10:45 AM PDT "Last Try" in Greece For years we have heard phrases like down to the last hour, one minute before midnight, now or never, etc. But on every previous occasion, the Troika negotiators pulled an agreement rabbit out of the hat. So, when we read Greece Locked in 'Last Try' Talks with Bailout Negotiators it's easy to be more than a bit skeptical of the serious "final" mature of it all. Talks between Athens and its international bailout creditors were expected to resume late on Sunday after Greek government officials were told to submit a final list of economic reforms in order to secure €7.2bn in desperately needed rescue aid.Primary Surplus Infeasible? The creditors targets for a primary surplus are not infeasible, but they would amount to "induced asphyxiation". And for what? Every bit of that surplus would go to pay creditors. If Greece could get a primary surplus, it's best strategy is simply to default, and use that surplus for internal use rather than to pay back absurd "bailout" loans that should never have been granted in the first place. Grexit might have cost perhaps €30 to €60 billion euros up front had the nannycrats just let Greece go when the problems first arose years ago. Two bailouts and growing Target2 imbalances ever since have turned this into a €330 billion problem, minimum. Capital Controls Coming? The Financial Times reports Greece Running Out of Options to Avoid Capital Controls. Just a few months ago, the possibility that capital controls would be imposed in Greece still seemed distant.Four to Six Weeks Away? Four weeks is a long time. Is it a minute before midnight or not? This is what happened in Cyprus, and it happened in a take-it-or-leave-it offer in a matter of hours, not weeks. Under pressure from its EU partners, Nicosia [capital of Cyprus] agreed to a deep restructuring of its banking sector and a "bail-in" of large depositors — forcing them to accept bank shares for some of their cash — in exchange for a €10bn loan.Bank Meltdown Nonsense. There was a bank meltdown and capital controls are proof of it. To bail out the banks and the bondholders, depositors suffered massively, all for a €10 billion loan that still has to be paid back. Capital Controls, Then What? Here's a link I picked up from ZeroHedge. Open Europe discusses The how, what, when and why of Greek capital controls. How would Greek capital controls be implemented and what form might they take? What's the Aim Capital Controls? The more interesting discussion is the "What's the Aim?" question. I generally agree with the Open Europe writer Raoul Ruparel on this one. Why would Greece go for capital controls?Aim of Dragging Out the Talks My disagreement is the last sentence. I find it hard to believe capital controls are not already seriously discussed - by four groups: Greece, Germany, IMF, ECB. Greece and the ECB are the important ones. If the ECB shuts off Emergency Liquidity Assistance (ELA), Greeks will not be able to withdraw cash. I propose it's likely that Greek Prime Minister Tspiras purposely dragged out the talks for the express reason of giving people time and reason to withdraw cash. While the negotiations were underway, all to no avail, Greeks pulled money. Unless there is a disorderly mad dash for the exit, the ECB may allow this to continue. We will find out soon enough tonight. But at some point (and I expect far sooner than four weeks from now), Greece will be forced to impose them as soon as ELA is shut down. Bottom line: If you still have money in Greek banks, you are begging for a haircut. By the way, capital controls are in violation of EU rules. Then again, what nannycrats cares about rules? Best Case Scenario for Greece? I outlined the "best case scenario" for Greece in "Air of Unreality"; "Do You Feel Lucky, Punk?"; Who Has the Gun? Best Case ScenarioDefault the Best Option Whether or not Greece chooses to quickly get to a primary account surplus position so that it can stay in the eurozone, it's best option is to default. And if it defaults, capital controls will come as soon as the ECB shuts off ELA (if not before). That discussion has to be going on at the ECB right now. Meanwhile every day that passes by without capital controls is another day Greek citizens have to get their money out of the banks. Why there has not been a mad dash for the exit instead of a slow bleed of cash remains a mystery. Finally, the real fear of the nannycrats has to be that the best case scenario for Greece does indeed happen, proving what any sensible person knew all along: Exit is possible, and there is life after the eurozone. Mike "Mish" Shedlock http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com |
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